10 Questions: Elisabetta (Lis) DeGironimo

Earlier this month it was announced that Lis DeGironimo was appointed New York State’s Geographic Information Officer (GIO). Quite a accomplishment having started her geospatial journey over three decades ago with a copy of MapInfo.  I initiated a conversation with Lis at the end of 2023 which is summarized in the following questions and answers.  The NYS geospatial community is fortunate to have her in this new statewide leadership role.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  How did you get started in geospatial technologies?  

DeGironimo:  My undergrad is in Landscape Architecture from SUNY ESF, so I was very familiar with McHargian overlay analysis for site suitability.  I also always loved computers.  Soon after I started working in the site planning group of a large A&E firm,  I was handed a box of MapInfo software to use for space planning for a military base master plan.  I loved it!  It was my introduction to GIS.  From then on, I started taking courses and eventually went to grad school – also at SUNY ESF –  to pursue a career is GIS.

 eSpatiallyNewYork:  You were with the Mohawk Valley Water Authority for over 20 years.  What were some of your responsibilities there?  

DeGironimo:  At the Mohawk Valley Water Authority (MVWA), I was the GIS and Watershed Coordinator.  Besides being responsible for the GIS/GPS program, I also was responsible for emergency management and water withdrawal reporting.

eSpatiallyNewYork: How did the connection to the NYS GIS Program Office begin?

DeGironimo: At the 2006 NYS GIS Conference in Lake Placid, I was approached by Tom Hart & Dennis Wishman.  They asked if I’d be interested in serving on the NYS GIS Coordinating Body (the precursor to the GAC (Geospatial Advisory Council).  For the next eight years, I attended the quarterly meetings and participated in GIS strategic planning workshops.  The GAC was definitely my favorite professional committee role.  During my GAC tenure, I participated in state-wide GIS strategic planning, and I was blessed with the opportunity to meet some of the legends of the NYS GIS community, such as you!

 eSpatiallyNewYork: What was the biggest challenge stepping into both the Acting GIO and Director of the GIS Program Office position,  and for the most part, managing and directing the program on your own for almost a year and a half? 

DeGironimo: The biggest challenge was learning the scope of the GPO’s involvement.  I’ve been here for 18 months and I’m still learning all the systems in place at NYS.  Building a network within NYS ITS – an organization of over 3,400 people, is a challenge but I’m excited for the opportunity.  Our team expanded about six months after my arrival to include the ITS GIS team that was organizationally located in Shared Data Services.  That part of our GIS team supports many state agencies such as DOT, DEC, Parks, Ag & Markets, and many others.  So in many ways, we are a new organization with an expanded focus.  I’ve spent most of my time focusing on our organization and operations. 

With my recent promotion to GIO, the Deputy GIO (formerly GIS Program Office Director) position opened and we were able to promote Tim Ruhren into the Deputy GIO position.  With Tim’s promotion and his assistance, I look forward to having the time to work more outwardly with our stakeholder community. 

eSpatiallyNewYork:  The GIS Program Office was recast as Geospatial Services in 2023.  What was/is behind this change and name?

DeGironimo:  As I mentioned in my response above, in 2023, the GIS Program Office grew to include all the GIS teams within NYS ITS.  In June 2023, our team moved from a Section in the CTO (Chief Technology Office) to a Bureau with three Sections in the CDO (Chief Data Office).  Our GIS leadership team collaborated on developing a new name and identity.  Our three Sections are: Geospatial Enterprise Services, Geospatial Client Services, and Geospatial Data Services – which houses the framework data programs that comprised the GIS Program Office.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Do you see any changes in the focus of the program over the next several years?  Any movement to become more involved in building additional online applications? (vs publishing data/content)

DeGironimo: We are working on completing a three-year Geospatial Strategic Plan.  Our mission is to deliver geospatial information and capabilities to benefit all of New York – a broad and exciting mission to be sure!  One of the areas we will be bolstering is our governance (organizational, data, web).  We also directly serve many NYS agencies and are working on improving our intake procedures for state agencies requesting services.  I also expect we will publish additional datasets of statewide importance and develop additional public-facing applications.  One of our recent additions is to add a bookmark to our Basic Viewer App.  This bookmark loads a curated set of layers for the surveyor community.

 eSpatiallyNewYork: Any other new major initiatives planned for your office over the next 18-30 months? 

DeGironimo:  We are embarking on a major GIS enterprise architecture modernization project beginning in April.  We are looking to improve physical address geocoding and are exploring address validation.  We also will be modernizing CIRIS (Critical Infrastructure Response Information System) and the Discovery Data NY app.  Internally, we are developing a geospatial service catalog for NYS agencies.

 eSpatiallyNewYork:  Several years ago there was considerable  outreach and promotion by the State GIS program office on NextGen911.    What’s become of this effort?  

DeGironimo: Our team is very active in supporting the NYS entities shepherding NextGen 911 implementation.  Jason Baum, from our team, is co-chair of the GIS Working Group of the State Interoperable & Emergency Communication Board.  Jason also leads our Public Safety GIS Program which serves NYS agencies.  Since GIS is central to NextGen 911, our office will be involved with the implementation. 

eSpatiallyNewYork:  In your new position, what role do you see the Geospatial Advisory Committee (GAC) contributing towards impacting the direction of the services and products offered by your office? 

DeGironimo:  GAC was very involved with our recent Geospatial Strategy workshops and the development of the draft plan.  The GAC will continue to be the voice of our stakeholders.  We are considering adding representatives from the surveying and open-source communities.  We are only scratching the surface of what we can do with the new NYS GIS Clearinghouse.  We will be engaging the GAC to help steer the direction of the Clearinghouse.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  You’re involved with the GIS Certification Institute (GISCI) – you having designed the new Institute logo adopted earlier in 2023 – as a board member and involved in their outreach programs.  What’s your sense of the future of the GISP in New York State compared to other certifications and licenses?  

DeGironimo: I think the GISP credential will continue to gain popularity and recognition.  The December 2023 exam had the largest group to sit for the exam.  Our current GISCI Board Chair is another New Yorker,  Dr. Jochen Albrecht.  Jochen is spearheading exploring the development of a “Pre-GISP” credential for new college graduates.  I am a proponent of both of these credentials because of the rigor of the exam ensures a strong GIS knowledge base and commitment to the profession.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Before your career path drifted into the direction of GIS/geospatial, what were your other professional interests?  Ever think of another profession or job that might have been fulfilling as a career?

DeGironimo:  My first love (and college major) was architecture.  I also considered majoring in biomedical engineering.  I do a fair amount of architectural design (2D & 3D), construction, and carpentry.  I love designing and building things, so I’m sure I’d find that fulfilling.  I wish robotics were more of a thing when I was younger – though I may be a UAV pilot for my retirement gig.

 eSpatiallyNewYork:  Sorry, but others want to know – how’s your golf game?

DeGironimo:  Not as good as I’d like it to be, but I hope to remedy that in 2024 as time and weather allow!

Contact:
Elisabetta (Lis) DeGironimo, GISP
NYS Geographic Information Officer
New York State Office of Information Technology Services

 

 

 

10 Questions: ChatGPT for New York State GIS

I thought I was going to get out in front of all the ChatGPT for GIS discussion for the New York State GIS community, but that turned out to be off by a magnitude of sorts.  YouTube is already replete with ChatGPT for GIS tutorials and if we wait until next week there will probably be another ChatGPT alternative.  (I found the Matt Forrest YouTube video a good ChatGPT for GIS intro – actually formed a question after one of his examples).  Even Amazon jumped into the frey recently with their Amazon Bedrock option.  Take your pick, Bing Chat, Chatsonic, YouChat, Google Bard (available via a waiting list) and a whole host of others on the market in 2023. 

No, the robots aren’t taking over and I suspect we won’t see any of the early Terminator Cyberdyne Systems androids applying for your local GIS Analyst position anytime soon – though it might be a solution for those long dreadful digitizing jobs in the cart lab.  One way or another, Chatbot AI technology is definitely here to stay, evolve, and become another piece of the geospatial toolbox.  

Nothing specific or implied in any the questions.  Just random chains of thought though it does take a little getting used to putting the questions together vs. a basic Google search.  And it does seem to help to refresh and ask the same question twice – or even three times – to get more detailed results.  Never was a programmer, so a little short on questions in that space.

A lot here.  Actually 17 questions in all.  Straight copy and paste. Skim through as you want – find a topic/question you might be interested in.  There are tons more which could have been included.

Without any further adieu, my first machine interview: 

eSpatiallyNewYork:  What freshwater fish datasets are best for mapping fish population based on water depth in the Great Lakes?

ChatGPT:  There are several freshwater fish datasets that can be useful for mapping fish populations based on water depth in the Great Lakes. Here are a few options:

  1. Great Lakes Acoustic Telemetry Observation System (GLATOS) – This dataset provide information on the movements and behaviors of tagged fish in the Great Lakes.  It includes data on depth, temperature, and location, which can be used to create maps of fish populations based on water depth.
  2. Great Lakes Fishery Commission (GLFC) – The GLFC maintains a database of fish populations in the Great Lakes.  This dataset includes information on fish specifies, size, and location, which can be used to map fish population based on water depth.
  3. Great Lakes Environmental Database (GLENDA) – GLENDA is a comprehensive database of environmental data for the Great Lake region.  It includes information on water depth,  temperature, and environmental factors that can be used to map fish populations.
  4. USGS Great Lakes Science Center – The USGS Great Lakes Science Center conducts research on fish populations in the Great Lake and maintains a database of fish surveys.  This dataset includes information on fish species, abundance, and location which can be used to map fish populations based on water depth.

Ultimately, the best freshwater fish dataset for mapping fish populations based on water depth in the Great Lakes will depend on the specific research question and the type of analysis being conducted.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  To what degree of accuracy can I map features from New York State orthophotography?

ChatGPT:  The degree of accuracy with which you can map features from New York State orthophotography depends on various factors such as the resolution of the imagery, the accuracy of the ground control points used for georeferencing, and the skill and expertise of the analyst.

New York State orthophotography typically has a resolution ranging from 0.5 to 1 meter, which means that individual features such as buildings, roads, and other infrastructure can be identified and mapped with a reasonable level of accuracy. However, mapping smaller features such as individual trees, shrubs, or small structures may be more challenging, as these features may not be visible at this resolution.

The accuracy of mapping also depends on the quality of the georeferencing. The accuracy of the ground control points used for georeferencing should be of a similar or higher resolution than the orthophotography itself. This ensures that the imagery is correctly aligned with the ground, allowing for accurate measurements and mapping.

The skill and expertise of the analyst are also critical factors in the accuracy of mapping features from orthophotography. A trained analyst with experience in image interpretation and feature extraction techniques can accurately identify and map features with a high degree of accuracy.

Overall, mapping features from New York State orthophotography can provide a reasonable degree of accuracy for larger features such as buildings, roads, and other infrastructure. However, mapping smaller features may require higher resolution imagery or other sources of data. It is always important to validate and verify the accuracy of the mapping results through ground truthing and other quality control measures.

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10 Questions: Neil Curri

Geospatial technologies are found in so many organizations and on so many levels.
What once was a fledging technology based on desktop client software now
encompasses web technology, mobile and handhelds, increasingly the engineering
software toolbox, and hordes of geospatial data of all types and quality. And yes, the
ageless desktop clients lives on. It’s not often to find someone who is able to navigate
the many pieces of the technology for multiple organizations.

Neil Curri, who lives in the mid-Hudson River Valley community of Lloyd, is involved in a
wide range of geospatial efforts encompassing a diverse number of organizations over
the past several years. While technically currently employed by Partridge Venture
Engineering, Neil also serves as a GIS Academic Computing Consultant at Vassar
College in Poughkeepsie and has served in local government geospatial efforts as well
as the Dutchess County Cornell Cooperative Extension.  We recently communicated to discuss his past and current GIS contributions to the profession.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Let’s go back to the beginning – when and how did you get started
with geospatial technology?

Curri: After working in IT for a few years after college, I decided to go back to school to
refocus my career on something in the environmental field. GIS seemed a logical fit. I
found an Environmental Science M.S. program that also offered a GIS certificate at the
University of New Haven. The summer before I went back to school, I got a hold of a
copy of ArcView 3.2 and made a couple of maps and a website for a local watershed
group. The environmental applications were obvious.

eSpatiallyNewYork: In your capacity at Partridge Venture Engineering (PVE), what kind
of GIS applications or tools do you use?

Curri: Mostly ArcGIS Pro (and ArcMap for legacy projects – still transitioning…), some
GPS, and some limited drone work. We’ve used ArcGIS Online for a handful of projects
where a web mapping application was an appropriate deliverable for the project and
client. I’ve had to build a couple of small databases to organize environmental data
streamlined for mapping. My position is within the company’s Environmental division,
and there’s a need for map figures in every phase of a project – most of our work is site investigation and remediation. Mapping-grade GPS provides enough accuracy for ourpurposes, but we do use differential GPS and post-processing to get the best accuracy we can with our hardware. We’ll collect drone photos when existing aerials are
insufficient or outdated. I’ll either georeference them for any site figures we need, or
occasionally I’ll set up a flight plan and use drone mapping software to get a composite
aerial of a large area or use the 3D capability to estimate soil stockpile volumes or
excavation pit volumes.

eSpatiallyNewYork: You are the GIS Lab Manager at Vassar College. What does this
involve and some of your duties

Curri: My official title at Vassar is GIS Academic Computing Consultant. Duties include
mainly instructional support – advising faculty, staff, and students interested or engaged
in using GIS for teaching and research. For example, students in a Geomorphology
course were recently working on a GIS lab exercise that involves mapping changes in
glacial lake levels and creating an elevation profile to get channel dimensions and
calculate flow volume. This lab is one of several exercises for the course that were
originally written for ArcMap, which I migrated to ArcGIS Pro. I also work with the
college’s IT department staff to maintain GIS hardware, software, and licensing. CIS are
technically the “lab managers”, but we work together to keep things running and provide
capacity as GIS use grows on campus. With an enrollment of about 2,400 students,
Vassar is a small college. But GIS use is reaching the point where I think the
administration will expand licensing campus-wide for the next academic year, which will
significantly reduce the time I spend managing ArcGIS Online accounts.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Any particular area students seem to be most interested in in
applying GIS technology and concepts?

Curri: While the two core GIS courses – Cartography and Spatial Analysis (I
occasionally adjunct instruct either of these) – are taught out of the Geography and
Earth Science department, many students who take the course are Urban Studies
majors, who are very interested in social justice issues. But there are also many
Environmental Studies students who take the courses, and they tend to be interested in
ecological research and conservation. Neither of these courses (nor both of them
together) necessarily prepare students for a career in GIS, but students who take these
courses are sought after by faculty and staff for research and other projects (like the
Poughkeepsie Natural Resource Inventory or research projects at the Collins Field
Station on Vassar Farm) and they are more likely the ones who will pursue GIS as a
career and/or go on to graduate school to study GIS or a GIS-related field.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Tell us something about Vassar GIS students/grads,
YouthMappers, and Society for Conversation GIS

Curri: Hudson Valley Mappers is the Vassar-based chapter of YouthMappers, an
international organization supported by USAID. Two former students, one of whom now
works for USAID supporting YouthMappers, began the chapter in the Fall of 2018.
Students involved in HV Mappers are passionate about using GIS as a resource for
communities, both locally and around the world. The group coordinates local community
mapping events, usually involving some field data collection and partnering with one or
more local organizations, as well as organizing mapathons in which students participate
in Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) mapping projects

eSpatiallyNewYork: What was your geospatial roll and contribution with the City of
Poughkeepsie Natural Resource Inventory?

Curri: I mentored several student workers who assembled the maps created for the
report and online content and I ended up editing some sections of the report with Jen
Rubbo, Director of the Environmental, who led the project. Part of the it involved
inventorying and inspecting Ash trees for impacts by Emerald Ash Borer. I worked with
students and staff using previous tree inventory data by the City’s Shade Tree
Commission as the starting point, set up an ArcGIS Collector project for the field data
collection, and helped organize the information into a public-facing web map. That data
was used by the City to identify trees that presented a potential hazard and remove
them. There’s a short video describing that part of the project on the City’s website.

eSpatiallyNewYork: You worked at Dutchess County Cornell Cooperative Extension
between 2007-2015. What is your involvement there today?

Curri: I was recently asked to serve on an advisory committee for Dutchess County Cornell Cooperative Extension’s pending update of the County’s Natural Resource
Inventory. I worked on the last revision several years ago while at CCEDC, which was
an update of the previous version conducted in 1985 by the County’s Environmental
Management Council. A former intern and a volunteer I mentored there both went on to
graduate school and made careers for themselves in GIS – one is now with the NYS
GIS Program Office and the other is on staff at CCEDC.

eSpatiallyNewYork: You currently serve as Chair of the Town of Lloyd Environmental
Conservation Committee. What’s your sense of the understanding and acceptance of
GIS concepts by citizen and community groups at this level in the Hudson River Valley?

Curri: Though I may not be totally sure, but I think most citizen and community groups
in the Hudson Valley – at least any that have an interest in environmental conservation,
planning, or community development, or anyone volunteering for a town committee or
board – have some sense of what GIS is and that it has value. But there is a lack of
capacity available to citizen and community groups, and consultants like me cost
money, and budgets are limited, so I think exposure to GIS and understanding how it is
or could be useful to them is still limited. Lloyd is one of few towns in the Hudson Valley
with some in-house capability, which predates my involvement.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Some of your community outreach work and involvement has led
to having the DEC Hudson River Estuary Program support an intern on one of their
funded projects. Tell us about how that developed.

Curri: A former student should get some credit for this. While we were finishing up the
Poughkeepsie NRI, she was taking the web mapping class, which is a half-semester
class taught occasionally taught by Prof. Mary Ann Cunningham. Mary Ann connected
her with us, and for her class project the student published the NRI layers to ArcGIS
Online and assembled them in nested web apps to combine functionality. Volunteers
working on NRI’s in two other Hudson Valley towns, Union Vale and Gardiner, saw the
Poughkeepsie online map and wanted one of their own. Interested interns came forwardand used the Poughkeepsie NRI map as a template to assemble those. Based on thesuccess of these, the DEC Hudson River Estuary Program then contacted me to inquireabout assembling maps for the Town of Gardiner’s Community Preservation Plan
(CPP). We found an interested student but it ended up being more simple for PVE to
assume the contract and hire the student. He and I are working on this project now.

eSpatiallyNewYork: What’s been your involvement in statewide GIS activities?

Curri: I’ve been a member of the NYS GIS Association for a few years, but not very
active.I used to attend NEARC regularly before my partner and I started a family five years ago. About two or three years ago, some folks from a few land trusts in the
Hudson Valley started up a local chapter of the Society for Conservation GIS. I have
missed only one or two of these meetings since then. It’s a great group of people and I’dlike to be more involved – after this semester is over!

eSpatiallyNewYork: Have a particular GIS project you worked on or produced that
would like to highlight or brag about just a bit?

I think I’ve already done some of that here, but I’ll mention getting to work with Vassar
Professor Emeritus Dan Peck on the maps for his book, Thomas Cole’s Refrain.

There’s some work for litigation projects at PVE I’d like to highlight but not permitted top
do so. Most of my projects I don’t really consider “produced” by me, as I am often
working with a subject matter expert, a geologist, a professor, or enthusiastic student, a
client, or community partner who’s more or less guiding the project, and I’m just figuring
out what geospatial product or tool fits their needs.

Contact:

Neil Curri, GISP
GIS Analyst, PVE, LLC
Vassar College Academic Computing Consultant
necurri@vassar.edu | 845-437-7708 | 845-664-2100 (mobile)

10 Questions: Ken Stewart, NUAIR

Northeast UAS Airspace Integration Research Alliance

Ken Stewart is currently Chief Executive Officer of NUAIR (Northeast UAS Airspace Integration Research Alliance, Inc.) located in Syracuse, New York.  NUAIR is a New York based nonprofit organization that provides expertise in unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) operations, aeronautical research, safety management and consulting services.   He joined the organization in late 2020 where he is responsible for setting the overall vision and product strategy for the organization.  Mr. Stewart is an experienced industry veteran in wireless telecommunications and cloud-based software market with a specialization in building Enterprise SaaS, Federated digital marketplaces and platforms.

Prior to joining NUAIR,  Mr. Stewart served as the CEO of AiRXOS, a General Electric aviation company, where he led innovation, development, and commercialization of Unmanned Traffic Management services.  After beginning his career in engineering and management positions at IBM and GTE, Stewart served as an executive with several venture capital and private equity-backed companies commercializing and scaling pre-revenue start-ups and transforming organizations for growth.

He was recently appointed president of the Commercial Drone Alliance (CDA) which is an independent nonprofit that works with all levels of government to collaborate on policies for industry growth and the overall responsible use of commercial drone technology.

I was recently able to catch up with Ken and NUAIR staff to discuss his work in the drone space in New York State.

eSpatiallyNewYork: What is the primary function and purpose of NUAIR?

Stewart:  NUAIR is responsible for the continued development and advancement of New York’s AAM Proving Grounds and 50-mile UAS corridor between Syracuse and Rome, facilitating beyond visual line of sight testing, commercial operations, and the safe integration of UAS and eVTOLS into the national airspace.  Here’s a link to some of the history of how everything got started: https://esd.ny.gov/central-ny-rising-uri

NUAIR also manages operations of the New York UAS Test Site at Griffiss International Airport in Rome, NY, one of just seven FAA-designated UAS test sites in the United States and is responsible to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to conduct operations for UAS and advanced air mobility (AAM) eVTOL (electric vertical takeoff and landing testing).

eSpatiallyNewYork:  NUAIR seems to be mostly New York State-based.  How does its function and purpose differ from CDA? 

Stewart:  We continue to conduct meaningful projects and tests in New York for the FAA, NASA, and industry to advance both the UAS and advanced air mobility (AAM) industries. These projects provide the needed data to prove the safety and reliability cases to help shape policy and regulation to unlock the true potential of commercial drone operations. I am taking my professional expertise, coupled with the knowledge of the 3,600+ UAS test flights NUAIR has conducted at the New York UAS Test Site to help generate the needed policies and regulations to make national commercial drone operations both scalable and economically viable. I also represent NUAIR on the FAA beyond visual line of sight (BVLOS) advisory and rulemaking committee (ARC), actively working with the FAA and fellow industry leaders to solve the issues around safely flying BVLOS. Being a part of both of these initiatives gives NUAIR the ability to directly influence and shape the future of aviation.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Can you share some examples of NUAIR  providing outreach and consulting to governments in New York State on drone use and/or technology?

Stewart:  NUAIR has helped over 20 state agencies implement their drone programs including law enforcement, fire departments, environmental conservation and more. Selected examples are highlighted in this YouTube video.

We’ve also just started working with the New York State Thruway Authority, helping them integrate drones into their daily operations for routine bridge and infrastructure inspections. Flying a drone to scan a bridge is a lot safer than the traditional means of using a snooper truck, both for the crew inspecting the bridge and for motorists. Couple that with faster, more cost-effective inspections, it’s a win-win for the crew, the local economy and New York State as a whole.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Would appear a lot of this work is in the public safety community.  Are there other areas of government?   

Stewart:  The healthcare industry is beginning to realize the benefits of utilizing drones as well, especially the ability of contactless delivery of materials. You can read here about one of our recent collaborations with SUNY Upstate Medical where we helped deliver unused COVID-19 Test Kits.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Explain NUAIR’s relationship with the start-up incubators Genius NY and The Tech Garden. 

Stewart:  GENIUS NY and The Tech Garden are key partners and organizations for the Central New York UAS and high-tech ecosystem. We work directly with many of the companies in the Tech Garden and actively promote the resources both organizations provide to tech startups, actively contributing to the economic development of the region. Our COO Tony Basile is also on the board of directors for GENIUS NY, actively reviewing applicants and voting on the winners.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  The NUAIR Alliance is impressive.   How do these categories stack up in New York State? 

The NUAIR Alliance continues to grow on a global scale and includes organizations from all aspects involved with UAS and technology including policy & standards, spectrum, test sites, components, government and more. Visit https://nuair.org/alliance/ to see all of our active Alliance members.

NUAIR and the New York UAS Test Site has brought over 330 different companies from across the world and thousands of people to Central New York throughout the years and continue to bring in companies to test and setup shop.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  FAA, NASA Aviation, and state/local drone regulations – how does NUAIR stay on top of all the changes?  It all seems so fluid, dynamic, constantly changing.

Stewart:  This is what we do all-day, every-day. NUAIR employees are talking with, working with and/or conducting meaningful projects the FAA, NASA and industry every day of the week.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  How’s the industry dealing with all of the security concerns over Chinese made drone products such as the DJIs?  How are US-based companies responding in this regard?  

Stewart:  The concern with Chinese/foreign made drone and components continues to grow, including the recent regulations from the United States government stating that federal funds cannot be used to purchase Chinese (or other specific foreign countries) drone components. A lot of the public safety officials we work with are now looking into one of our partners, Skydio, an American drone manufacturer, who was a major hit at the New York Public Safety UAS Summit we just held. We’ve also validated a drone parachute on the WorkHorse, an American-made UAV built for deliveries.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Any involvement / business development with the any GIS companies?

Stewart:  We have quite an active program with Cardinal Geospatial, trying to define an analysis tool that could be used to determine whether an operator was using a DEM with enough granularity for their mission and the terrain over which they are flying.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Looking into the crystal ball, what’s the next big thing for the upstate drone/NUAIR community? 

Stewart:  5G. MITRE Engenuity Open Generation Consortium has determined New York’s 50-mile corridor is a prime location to launch the nation’s first 5G UAS testing range, a designation that will greatly enhance New York’s position as a global leader in this emerging technology sector.

The work we continue with the FAA, NASA, and industry both on the standards/regulations side and the physical data collection/testing side are helping shape the future of aviation. This work will unlock the true potential of drones for commercial operations that are both scalable and economically viable. The drone and overall high-tech Central New York ecosystem has everything a company needs to land and expand their UAS operations.

Contact:

Tim Lawton
Director of Marketing & Public Relations
tlawton@nuair.org
www.nuair.org

10 Questions: Peter Carlo

From my level, it’s a rare occurrence any more running into someone in the geospatial field when I can make reference to Arc/INFO and AML (ARC Macro Language) without him or her giving me a big blank stare. A testament to how long we have both been around.    One of those individuals is Peter Carlo, who works for the New York City Department of Parks and Recreation in the forestry division having worked in the geospatial field for over thirty years.  Yes, learning the ropes at the dawn of GIS with command line Arc/INFO and one of the most senior GIS professionals in the vast New York City government GIS user community.  I was fortunate to catch up with him recently to discuss some of the highlights of his long career in the Big Apple.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Maybe a little of your background and where you are originally from?

Carlo:  I was born in the northern Bronx.  In my early years, the family moved to southern Vermont.  After graduating high school I briefly attended Castleton College in Rutland, VT, though eventually returned to New York City to attend Lehman College in the early 1990’s and enrolled in the geography department.  Since then I’ve lived in a couple places in the metro-NYC area but now live with my family on Long Island.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  What is your current responsibility(s) with NYC Parks Department?

Carlo: I am currently the GIS Supervisor at NYC Parks I.T. division.  Our team is made up of  six GIS specialist and our primary goal is to administer the Parks GIS central geodatabase and to support geospatial projects throughout the Agency.  These projects range from configuring Survey123 mobile data efforts to writing data ETL’s (extract/transfer/load) to our central data warehouse.

eSpatiallyNewYork: So geography at Lehman College in the early 1990s.  Where did it go from there?

Carlo: Yes, I really found the passion for GIS technology at Lehman College.  In 1991 or so I had the opportunity to build an ESRI “enterprise” GIS at the GIS lab at Lehman.  Everything from backend data to an ARC/INFO front end access.  I found a passion in setting up hardware and software solutions while configuring components like digitizing tables and then spending hours digitizing contour maps of the Bronx geology.

Soon after graduation from Lehman, I was hired by the NYC Parks Department Forestry Division and started working on the (first) 1995 street tree survey dataset, which was done by associating a tree location with an street address.  At that time, the Parks Departments Forestry offices where located in each of the five boroughs and were managing their own tree data in a disk operating system (DOS) program called Tree Manager.  I also worked with the Parks I.T. Division to setup the our first central geodatabase using SQL Server and ArcSDE.  Working with Lehman College interns we were able to map out all park athletic facilities, playgrounds and comfort stations.  This data still serves as the foundation for the Parks geodatabase.  (Editor Note:  An entirely different read on its own is the effort behind the New York City Street Survey program.  The most recent 2015 tree survey, which is coordinated by NYC Parks,  inventoried nearly 700,000 trees in the five boroughs.  Read here for more details.) 

eSpatiallyNewYork: In this capacity what are some of your current projects?

Carlo: We are currently working with our Forestry division to deploy an interagency Survey123 application that will be used during storm events.  It will be the second version of this solution.  The application will stream 311 hazardous tree request (like tree downs and limb downs) to potentially over 300 field inspectors made up of Parks, FDNY and DSNY staff to name a few. A large part of our work is making our GIS data interoperable with legacy software/data solutions.  We also participate in integrating spatial data and functions into new business and software solutions.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Do you have a “favorite” GIS project you’ve worked on while in the NYC Parks department?

Carlo:  I would say working (about 10 years ago) on Forestry’s first mobile storm response application.  It was called Storm Mobile.  It worked on the thick IBM Toughbook tablets utilizing wireless and GPS technology, 311 integration and data from the 2005 Tree Census. That was all new stuff for us and everything worked just fine.  I made some lifelong friends during that experience and learned so much.  A majority of our mobile application use smart phones and tablets with AGPS.  However, there are some teams that use Trimble units when needed.

eSpatiallyNewYork: NYC Parks Department is an ESRI shop – what about other software programs, hardware components in your office?

Carlo:  We are using Infor EAM (Enterprise Asset Management) for a work order management software.  This is highly integrated with our central GIS database.  We also have a new group of data scientists who are utilizing open source GIS tools at a high level. Currently the Agency has over 200 ArcGIS Desktop Pro installation, Multiple SQL/SDE central data repositories and an internal data warehouse that serves as a point of access.  A lot of our ArcGIS Desktop/Pro users utilize extensions such as Spatial Analysis, Workflow Manager and Geostatistical Analyst.  We are also using Cyclomedia Street Smart and Pictometry oblique photos.

Parks is currently on a path to migrate over to a more web GIS approach to spatial data access.  We’ve been moving over to Enterprise ArcGIS 10.8 by utilizing ArcGIS Server and ArcGIS portal to build web apps, Survey123 and Collector solutions.  Around the ArcGIS Online (AGOL) framework.  This has allowed us to streamline workflows and make GIS data more accessible to non-GIS specialists.  Overall, spatial data has increasingly become more integrated throughout the Department data footprint – it is just going to continue to grow.

eSpatiallyNewYork: What other NYC departments do you work the most closely with in GIS/geospatial efforts?

Carlo: The Parks Department works closely with many of the other City Agency GIS units.  We often share data with NYPD, FDNY, OEM and DoITT.  I think interagency data and resource sharing is the next big thing for all NYC Government GIS units.  I finally imagine a central GIS data portal coming together, where all city agencies can upload standardized data that could serve as a central data store for Agencies System of records. It’s kind of the next step from the Open Data portal.  Beyond the geospatial perspective the Parks Department maintains an impressive list of partners in doing work with throughout the city system..

eSpatiallyNewYork: What’s the next big “geospatial thing” in NYC Parks?

Carlo:  I would say that it is data interoperability, web GIS and the move to cloud solutions.  For my team it’s going to be about quickly standing up “no code” data collection and analytical tools that will empower end users (subject matter experts) without them having to be GIS experts.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Are you involved on any level contributing to the NYC Open Data portal?

Carlo: My specific unit isn’t directly involved in publishing to the portal but NYC Parks as a whole contributes significantly.  Right now I believe there are close to 100 NYC Parks datasets available.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Yankees or Mets?

Carlo:  BIG TIME YANKEE FAN!  I remember watching the Yankees during the Bronx Zoo era!

Contact:

Peter Carlo
GIS Supervisor
NYC Parks I.T. division
peter.carlo@parks.nyc.gov
https://www.nycgovparks.org/services/forestry

10 Questions: Larry Spraker

My guess the name Larry Spraker doesn’t need much of an introduction across the New York State and New England GIS landscape.   His work and contributions since the late 1980s to the geospatial community are many and have included efforts from academia, government, and for many years the private sector.  As well as a ton of volunteer work with GIS user groups and the like. It has been an privilege crossing paths with him in so many ways over the years.  

So depending on the time of day, I recommend grabbing your favorite beverage, pull up a chair and continue reading.  There’s a lot here.  And after you are done, close your eyes and envision Mr. Spraker in another time or comos. Or, as the immortal Rod Sterling would say on the Twilight Zone “Another Dimension”.  Under the bright lights, behind the desk, and waving his hands fevorishly.  Yup, that’s him in his new gig – performing his best Chris Berman “Swami Sez” imitation as he hosts the 6PM ESPN SportsCenter broadcast.

Enjoy.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Let’s start from the beginning.   The Albany-area boy goes to SUNY Albany for undergraduate and then on to Indiana State for graduate work.  How and when did geography become your educational and professional focus? 

Spraker:  I originally went to UAlbany as a Communications major with aspirations to be a sportswriter. After realizing that was a tough gig that didn’t pay particularly well (at least back in the early 80’s), someone recommended Computer Science. After a few courses, I really liked programming, but hated the high-end math courses such as Calculus and Differential Equations. A minor in Computer Science didn’t require the math courses, so I went to my advisor and asked “What would be a good major with a Computer Science minor?”. He listed a number of majors that included Physics, Math, and the last one he mentioned was Geography. I had already taken 6 credits in Geography as electives, so I asked for more details and somehow this guy had a fair bit of knowledge in this area and explained just enough of cartography, GIS and remote sensing to pique my interest. I registered for Intro to Cartography and Intro to Remote Sensing the next semester and fell in love with the both courses, and quickly found my new major. I focused primarily in Remote Sensing as an undergrad, and my professor, Floyd Henderson, really encouraged me to go graduate school. At the time Indiana State University was a leading remote sensing program, having the first remote terminals into the mainframe computers at Purdue which was the state of the art for image processing software. Floyd knew the professors at ISU, wrote me a recommendation and helped me get a Research Assistantship, so I packed up my car with everything I owned and drove to Terre Haute, Indiana for 2 years and finished my Masters. Although I focused a lot on Remote Sensing, I got exposed to a lot of GIS as well, and by the end of grad school had really got the GIS bug.

As an aside, after I graduated from ISU and came back to the Capital District, Floyd called me and asked me if I would teach his Intro to Remote Sensing and Aerial Photo Interpretation classes while he was away on sabbatical that year. So I returned to SUNY Albany as an adjunct professor and taught his classes that year. When Floyd returned, I stayed on as an adjunct faculty member and transitioned to developing and teaching several GIS courses. I really enjoyed working with the students and ended up teaching at SUNY Albany for 17 years.

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10 Questions / Preguntas: Daniel Munoz

Daniel Munoz, GIS Manager, Orange County GIS Division, has been an integral part of the Orange County GIS program for over twenty years and involved in geospatial initiatives in municipalities across the county as well.  Somewhat atypical of how other county programs across the Empire State originally evolved, Daniel led implementation of the countywide effort from its beginning from inside the Orange County Water Authority and later on overseeing development into key enterprise programs in the areas of Real Property Tax Services and Emergency Services.  With Spanish being his native language, I also asked Daniel to offer any thoughts/ideas on how to expand and provide geospatial tools to the growing Spanish speaking populations across the Empire State. In further supporting this issue, this eSpatiallyNewYork post is published in both Spanish and English.

Daniel Muñoz, Gerente del SIG, Condado de Orange División de SIG, ha sido una parte integral del programa SIG del Condado de Orange por más de veinte años y también ha participado en iniciativas geoespaciales en los municipios del condado. Un poco diferente de cómo evolucionaron estos programas en otros condados en el Empire State, Daniel dirigió la implementación de los esfuerzos del condado desde el inicio en el Departamento de Agua del Condado de Orange y luego supervisó el desarrollo de programas claves en las áreas de Servicios de Impuestos de Bienes Inmuebles y Servicios de Emergencia. Como el español es su lengua materna, también le pedí a Daniel que ofreciera conceptos / ideas sobre cómo expandir y proporcionar herramientas geoespaciales a las crecientes poblaciones de habla hispana a través del Empire State. Para respaldar aún más esta situación, esta publicación de eSpatiallyNewYork es disponible tanto en español como en inglés.

1.  eSpatiallyNewYork: Let’s start from the beginning.  Where are you originally from and when/how did you end up in Orange County government?

Munoz:  Here is the short story! I’m originally from Mexico City where I earned my Professional Engineer (P.E.) stripes.   I graduated as an industrial engineer from the Autonomous Metropolitan University of Mexico City and initially worked as computer system analyst for an international kitchen appliance company. I was fine with reading English and working with computers programing languages, but struggled with conversational English.  Since I had friends in the city,   I decided to move to Boston, Massachusetts to learn English.  While there I met a woman from Orange County which I married and ultimately moved to Orange County.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Empecemos por el principio.  De donde eres originalmente y cuando o como terminaste en el gobierno del Condado de Orange?

Munoz: Esta es la historia corta! Soy originario de la Ciudad de México donde obtuve mi titulo de Ingeniero.   Me gradué de Ingeniero Industrial  de la Universidad Autónoma Metropolitana de la Ciudad de México inicialmente trabaje de Analista de Sistemas de Computación para una compañía internacional de electrodomésticos de cocina.  No tenia problemas leyendo ingles y trabajando con lenguajes de programación de computadoras, pero me costaba trabajo el inglés conversacional. Decidí mudarme a Boston, Massachusetts para aprender inglés ya que tenia amigos en esa ciudad. Allí conocí a una mujer del Condado de Orange con la que me casé y finalmente me mudé al Condado de Orange.

2.  eSpatiallyNewYork: What were your earliest Orange County GIS efforts?

Munoz:  I started with the Orange County Water Authority (OCWA) which is a “cousin” of county government.  My title then was digital systems analyst, which in hindsight, was “being in  the right place at the right time”. When I moved here, Orange County had not developed an E-911 system, but OCWA had started gathering  various databases and integrated computer mapping technology to create a county wide Geographic Information System.  Which ultimately led to  OCWA starting  to  serve a significant  supporting role in developing the new computerized E-911 system.  It was during this time I developed my own passion for GIS technology.   Since then I have learned about and worked in the fields of emergency management, planning, tax mapping, public works, and many other areas of county government.  We are providing and integrating data for all services!

eSpatiallyNewYork: ¿Cuáles fueron tus primeros esfuerzos de SIG en el Condado de Orange?

Munoz:  Comencé trabajando para Orange County Water Authority (OCWA) la cual es un agencia del gobierno del Condado de Orange.  Mi título entonces era analista de sistemas digitales, en retrospectiva, fue “estar en el lugar correcto en el momento adecuado”. Cuando me mude aquí, El Condado de Orange no había desarrollado el Sistema E-911, OCWA había comenzado a recopilar varias bases de datos y tecnología integrada de mapeo por computadora para crear un Sistema de Información Geográfica para todo el condado.  Lo que finalmente llevó a que OCWA comenzara a desempeñar un importante papel de apoyo en el desarrollo del nuevo sistema computarizado E-911. Fue durante este tiempo que desarrollé mi propia pasión por la tecnología SIG. Desde entonces, he aprendido y trabajado en los campos de gestión de emergencias, planificación, asignación de impuestos, obras públicas y muchas otras áreas del gobierno del condado. ¡Estamos proporcionando e integrando datos para todos tipo de servicios!

3.  eSpatiallyNewYork: Do you remember the version of ARC/INFO you got started with and what ESRI products are you using today?

Munoz:  Oh boy.  I do and this really dates  me!   My GIS experience didn’t start with ARC/INFO, I started with ArcView 1.0 with option to update to 1.0a.  I still have the box almost intact with the 5¼” installation floppy disks (picture below). We did most of the work with ArcCAD an ESRI plugin for AutoCAD. My first interaction with ARC/INFO was at Version 7. Nowadays we try to keep up to date as much as possible but avoiding the “bleeding edge”. We are in the process of moving our full enterprise GIS to V 10.6.1. I use the full ArcGIS suite including  ArcServer and  ArcMap with the following extensions:  Network Analyst, Spatial Analyst and 3D Analyst.   I have tried ArcGIS Pro but still has some issues.  As far as the web environment, I created all of our websites with the old ESRI flash builder and have started to update them with Web AppBuilder.

Like many others across the state, Daniel got his start with desktop ArcView software.  Still an ESRI favorite to seasoned GIS professionals.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  ¿Recuerdas la versión de ARC/INFO con la cual comenzaste y que productos de ESRI usasactualmente?

Munoz:  Ay Caramba! Recuerdo bien y revela cuanto tiempo ha pasado! Mi experiencia en SIG no comenzó con ARC/INFO, comencé con ArcView 1.0 con la opción de actualizar a 1.0a. Todavía tengo la caja casi intacta con los discos de instalación de 5¼ ” (imagen abajo). La mayor parte del trabajo fue echo con ArcCAD una extensión de ESRI para AutoCAD. Mi introducción con ARC/INFO fue en la versión 7.0. Hoy en día tratamos de mantenernos actualizados tanto como sea posible, pero evitamos estar a la “vanguardia”. Estamos en el proceso de actualizar nuestro completo SIG a la versión 10.6.1. Uso el paquete completo de ArcGIS, incluyendo ArcServer y ArcMap con las siguientes extensiones: Network Analyst, Spatial Analyst y 3D Analyst. He tratado ArcGIS Pro pero todavía tiene algunos problemas. Entorno de la web, construí  todas nuestras paginas de web con la antigua tecnología de flash pero ya comencé a actualizarlos con la tecnología de Web AppBuilder.

4.  eSpatiallyNewYork: You left GIS  for a while to take another position in County Information Technology –  but then came back to GIS.  Tell us about that.

Munoz:  For me,  GIS & IT always go hand to hand.  While working  for the County,  I always found myself splitting my work projects between GIS & IT.  At the beginning of my career in order to build a better GIS program I had to build a better IT infrastructure.   During this time, I obtained a Windows & Network professional certification. Having this expanded  IT background gave me the opportunity to move to an IT Director position which at the time was a good professional advancement for me.   Two years ago, the County decided to upgrade the County’s  GIS and I was asked  to be part of the team to interview  candidates and  proposals. Going through this process reminded me how much I enjoyed geospatial technology so I made the decision to move back to managing the Orange County GIS program.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Dejaste el SIG por un tiempo para tomar otra posición en el departamento de Información Tecnología del Condado – pero luego regresaste al SIG. Platícanos a cerca de esto.

Munoz:  Para mí, el SIG & la IT siempre van de la mano. Mientras trabajaba para el Condado, siempre me encontraba dividiendo mi tiempo y proyectos de trabajo entre SIG y IT. Al comienzo de mi carrera, para construir un mejor sistema de SIG tuve que construir una mejor infraestructura de IT. Durante este tiempo, obtuve una certificación profesional de Windows y Redes. Teniendo esta experiencia ampliada en IT me dio la oportunidad de cambiarme a un puesto de director de IT, lo que en ese momento fue un buen avance profesional para mí. Hace dos años, el Condado decidió actualizar el SIG del Condado y me pidieron que formara parte del equipo para entrevistar a los candidatos y sus propuestas. Ser parte de este proceso me recordó lo mucho que disfrutaba la tecnología geoespacial, así que tomé la decisión de regresar a dirigir el SIG del Condado de Orange.

5.  eSpatiallyNewYork: So which areas of County government are the biggest users of geospatial technology?

Munoz:  Definitely Emergency Services!   They have three divisions working  24×7 using and creating data everyday.  Second would be the Planning Department and following very close the Department of Public Works.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Entonces, ¿Qué áreas del gobierno del Condado tiene los mayores usuarios de tecnología geoespacial?

Munoz:  Definitivamente el departamento de Servicios de Emergencia! Este departamento tiene tres divisiones que  trabajan 24×7 usando y creando datos todos los días. Segundo sería el Departamento de Planificación y siguiéndolo muy de cerca el Departamento de Obras Públicas.

6.  eSpatiallyNewYork:  The County still offers hardcopy maps, shapefiles, and other products for download.  How has this changed, if at all, over the years?

Munoz:  It seems that technology is always driving the associated GIS changes.  The GIS offices are quieter these days as the phones don’t ring as much.  We use to answer the phone constantly to take requests, return calls to inform the caller their  request had been completed.  Today, our online automated GIS request website has taken care of many of these issues.   Individuals can create accounts, make  mapping or data requests, and be notified when the request has been fulfilled with instructions on how to obtain the request.  The website also has an area for data downloads and can notify registered users when County data layers have been updated by our staff.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  El Condado todavía ofrece mapas impresos, shapefiles y otros productos para descargar. ¿Cómo ha cambiado esto, si es que ha cambiado, con los años?

Munoz:  Parece que la tecnología siempre está impulsando los cambios asociados al SIG. Las oficinas de SIG son más silenciosas en estos días ya que los teléfonos no suenan tanto. Solíamos contestar el teléfono constantemente para recibir pedidos, devolver llamadas a nuestros usuarios para informarles que su pedido esta completo. Hoy en día, nuestro sitio de web tiene un sistema de pedidos automatizados y se ocupa de muchos de estos problemas. Las personas pueden crear cuentas, realizar pedidos de mapas o datos y recibir notificaciones automatizadas cuando el pedido se haya cumplido e instrucciones sobre cómo obtenerlo. El sitio web también tiene un área para descarga de datos y puede notificar a los usuarios registrados cuando nosotros actualizamos las bases de datos del Condado.

7.  eSpatiallyNewYork: Any integration with the AutoCAD environment?

Munoz:  Currently, a  small group of engineers from DPW and the tax mapping division are the only ones that still use AutoCAD.  Some years ago the tax mappers started to maintained the parcel boundaries from their tax maps in  an enterprise database with AutoCAD.  As  previously mentioned, our current  GIS upgrade project includes moving the full tax map maintenance program  to our ArcGIS environment.  Stay tuned!

eSpatiallyNewYork:  ¿Alguna integración con el programa de AutoCAD?

Munoz:  Actualmente, solo un pequeño grupo de ingenieros de el Departamento de Obras Públicas y la división de mapas de cadastro son los únicos que todavía utilizan AutoCAD. Hace algunos años, los mapas de cadastro se comenzaron a mantener a través de una base de datos con AutoCAD. Como se mencionó anteriormente, nuestro proyecto actual de actualización del SIG incluye mover el programa de mantenimiento de mapas de cadastro a nuestro sistema de ArcGIS. ¡Mantente al tanto!

8.  eSpatiallyNewYork:  As GIS Manager, what are your biggest challenges today?

Munoz:  I would have to say staffing.  Believe it or not in the last two years I have had to replace the GIS technician positions four times.  While each time each person has been  a competent young professional,  It seems to me the new generation of GIS technicians wants to keep moving on with the next opportunity for advancement.  As opposed to staying in one place for while and building a career in one place.   I find myself training people to see them gone within  6 – 12 months.   A huge challenge!

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Como Gerente de SIG, ¿cuáles son tus mayores desafíos hoy?

Munoz:  Tendría que decir que es el personal. Lo creas o no, en los últimos dos años he tenido que reemplazar las posición de técnico en SIG cuatro veces. Cada vez la persona ha sido un joven profesional competente, pero me parece que la nueva generación de técnicos en SIG siempre anda buscando la próxima oportunidad de avance. A diferencia de permanecer en un lugar por un tiempo y construir una carrera en ese lugar. Me encuentro entrenando personas para que desaparezcan en los próximos 6 – 12 meses. ¡Un gran reto!

9.  eSpatiallyNewYork: What’s the next big geospatial thing in Orange County?

Munoz:  The County is finalizing the Orange County Shared Services Property Tax Savings Plan.  One section in particular reads:

The County of Orange will offer geographic information services (GIS) to any and all of its 43 municipalities. This will include all cartography and geographic data services such as map development, maintenance and printing.

Coordinating and standardizing 43 municipalities will be our biggest project and will keeps us busy for a good while.  I’m hoping for staff continuity!

eSpatiallyNewYork:  ¿Cuál es la próxima gran cosa geoespacial en el Condado de Orange?

Munoz:  El Condado está finalizando el Plan de Servicios Compartidos de Ahorro de Impuestos de la Propiedad del Condado de Orange. Una sección en particular dice:

El Condado de Orange ofrecerá servicios de información geográfica (SIG) a todos y cada uno de sus 43 municipios. Esto incluirá todos los servicios de cartografía y servicio de datos geográficos, como el desarrollo de mapas, el mantenimiento y la impresión.

Coordinar y estandarizar 43 municipios será nuestro mayor proyecto y nos mantendrá ocupados por un buen rato. ¡Espero y el personal sea continuo entonces!

10.  eSpatiallyNewYork:  You are of Hispanic background.  Do you have any thoughts or ideas on how GIS technology could be extended to the regional Spanish speaking population?  Where and how would you start?

Munoz:  The beauty of GIS is that it can help everyone in so many ways.  But the challenge continues to be building applications which are relevant, accessible, and easy to use.  Research show that Hispanics are less likely to have an internet connection at home.  Hispanics are early technology adopters, and Hispanics are mobile-first community. These statements contradict each other a bit but it is because the Hispanic demographic is young. Based on this information I would focus available resources to build, design and post GIS apps in Spanish on mobile platforms (cell phones and tablets) where we know Hispanics are spending their time. These early adopters will spread the message among their social groups faster than any other method.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Eres de origen hispano. ¿Qué piensas o que ideas tienes sobre cómo la tecnología de Sistemas de Información Geográfica (SIG) podría extenderse a la población regional de habla hispana? ¿Dónde y cómo empezarías?

Munoz:  Lo bonito del SIG es que ayuda a todos, pero debemos asegurarnos de distribuirlo a ellos. Las investigaciones demuestran que los Hispanos tienen la menor probabilidad de tener una conexión de internet en casa, los Hispanos adoptan la tecnología tempranamente y son una comunidad que usan los dispositivos móviles primero. Estas declaraciones se contradicen un poco, pero es debido a que la demografía hispana es joven. Basado en esta información yo pondría todos los recursos disponibles en crear, diseñar y publicar aplicaciones de SIG en plataformas móviles (teléfonos celulares y tabletas) donde sabemos que los Hispanos pasan la mayoría de su tiempo. Estos pioneros difundirán el mensaje atreves de sus redes sociales más rápido que cualquier otro método.

10 Questions: Christine Gayron, Gayron de Bruin Land Surveying and Engineering, PC

Christine Gayron currently serves as President of Gayron de Bruin Land Surveying and Engineering, PC (GdB) based in Melville, New York.   The company provides a wide range of geospatial products and services for clients in the Empire State.  As part of eSpatiallyNewYork’s continued effort to reach out to the statewide geospatial professions, we were able to meet and have a conversation at the 2019 New York State Association of Licensed Surveyors (NYSAPLS) annual conference.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  GdB was created in 2010.  The company has made a lot of progress in a relatively short period of time and adding a lot of new technologies along the way – GIS, drones, laser scanning, etc. – how is the company making it all happen?

Gayron:  I only hire people who are awesome. They are the ones who make it happen. I just bring in the work and create a company culture that makes the employees want to be the best at what we do. I have to credit my partner, Greg de Bruin, for constantly pushing the envelope, and insisting on investing in technology, and Jason Graf, my partner in charge of operations, for putting the technology in everyday use. Greg introduced GIS in the 90’s before I started my career. I actually think my contribution was my ability to run the business and bring work in, creating a revenue stream that would allow us to afford to make the investments. So I grew the company and oversaw things and generated profit, while the technology nerds in the company figured out how to customize software and put new technology into use.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Tell me a little bit about your education.   B.S. in Geology – how did you make the jump to surveying?

Gayron: I have a BA in Geology from CUNY Queens College and a minor in secondary education. I thought I was going to be an Earth Science teacher, but a month into student teaching, I realized teaching was not for me. I wasn’t sure what to do. My stepfather saw an ad in the paper for GIS Specialists at an engineering firm called A. James de Bruin & Sons, the predecessor firm to Gayron de Bruin.  It was in Bethpage, NY, the next town over from where I live. I had taken one class in GIS in college. The mapping aspect of geology interested me more than the rocks and minerals part, so I applied for an entry level position. I was hired to draft utilities and base maps for utility company conduit design drawings. Then I worked with one of the engineers on the conduit design. I designed hangers to support conduits underneath a couple of bridges over the Long Island Expressway (LIE).   I also designed horizontal directional drilling of conduit underneath the LIE. When the conduit design work dried up, I started doing more boundary surveying and control surveys for NYSDOT.  I used GIS to plan control networks.  At 23 years old, I was managing design survey projects. There was lots of opportunity at the small family owned firm and I was good at seeing what needed to get done. As I approached licensure in 2010, my boss, Greg de Bruin, and I decided to partner and form Gayron de Bruin.  It was time for Greg to start planning for retirement and I was the successor.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Early on, traditional surveying and engineering companies were a bit slow embracing GIS technology/software but today this intersection is complete.  GdB is part of the ESRI Partner Network and has ArcGIS Online Specialty Did GdB have ESRI capacity from the beginning?

Gayron:  We’ve always been an ESRI shop. We saw how ESRI had discounted licenses for schools and government and we knew that was key. As we are geospatial data collectors and data managers we push GIS as a data management tool to our clients.  We try to provide this to all of our clients. GIS is just one of the tools in the toolbox. It used to be a hard sell to get clients to use GIS, but ArcGIS Online (AGOL) has made that a lot easier because we can set up the GIS tools, bring the data in, and show them how to view, analyze, and manipulate it.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Are the new/younger generation of surveyors – and engineers – who are just getting into the work force have a broad enough understanding/experience with GIS software?

Gayron:  We hire a lot of people right out of college with GIS education. We find that they have a basic understanding of what it can do, but how we use it in surveying and engineering is usually new to them. Most of it is learned along the way. I think this is true of most industries – college gives a basic foundation and only scratches the surface. Getting into the workforce is where the detailed applications and user expertise is developed.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Speaking of data, what has GdB’s experience been in obtaining government data?  I see that elevation certificates and tax parcel data are key business components in your space.    What’s been your experience in getting this digital data across New York State?

Gayron: Orthoimagery has been very attainable and useful. Parcel data is useful for elevation certificates as you suggested. Tax map line work is valuable for getting an idea of what the parcel layout may look like, but it can be deceiving. We try not to use it on our drawings because we are licensed land surveyors and if we put a line on the drawing, it’s got to be in the right place. We love to see government offices scanning their maps and storing them in a GIS and making them available, but this is still rare.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Drone technology is becoming a geospatial game changer.  What’s the GdB read on this evolving technology?

Gayron: So drones are all the rave, but they are really just another cool option in the geospatial tool box – a glorified robot camera holder.   It’s really the software that connects drone flights to GPS and uses drone photography to create point clouds and 3D surface models that I find impressive. Like other tools such as LiDAR, it is the accurate and precise control that yields accurate 3D models. The software is key in reconciling the data with the ground control.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  This is impressive  – “GdB is ranked in POB Magazine as one of the top 100 Geospatial firms in the United States.”

POB magazine gathered data in 2015 and 2016 on revenue in the geospatial community. I’m attaching the articles so you can see how they used the data to rank firms. They stopped doing it after 2016, but I’m certain we would rank even higher on the list now!

eSpatiallyNewYork:  How does Honeoye Falls, New York fit into the GdB business plan? It’s a long way from your Long Island headquarters!

Honeoye Falls is just outside of Rochester. So we wanted to expand the company and it seemed we had the choice to expand geographically providing the same services or we could expand our range of services to include more civil engineering. We decided to stick with what we are good at and do it farther away. My partner, Jason Graf, LS, found New York State Department of Transportation (NYSDOT) data available online. It listed NYSDOT projects by location and contract budget. He manipulated the data in GIS and created a heat map to see where NYSDOT was spending the most money. The New York City area glowed the brightest, of course. The next “glowiest” cities were Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. With Rochester in the middle of those three cities, it seemed like a place to look into. We had some contacts there and did our research. Within one year of starting to think about a Rochester office, we had the branch office open with 5 employees. 18 months later, we have 11 employees and they are all busy! Scott Smith, LS, the Branch Manager, is building an all-star team upstate. I truly believe that the bringing on the right people drives our success. As we grow, we are putting effort into making our operation more structured and efficient, but as stated above, we only hire people who are awesome, and I want them to feel appreciated for their ideas and contributions.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  What are some of GdB’s current larger or unique projects using geospatial technologies? 

Power companies are putting out very large corridor projects requiring surveying and mapping of several miles along a proposed power line route. I think these projects are coming about as new forms of energy generation are being developed. They need transmission lines to connect the new power plants, solar panel fields, and wind farms to traditional power grids. We also do large mapping projects for design of infrastructure in New York City. The city’s infrastructure is crumbling and needs upgrading. One of the first steps is mapping the existing conditions. These jobs are always a huge rush.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Considering all of GdB’s business – what is the breakdown between private and business clients? 

Most of our work is for government agencies. The breakdown is aboutt 80% government agency work, and 20% private clients.

eSpatiallyNewYork: Tell us about the online teaching you do through GeoLearn?

I met Joe Paiva, the founder of GeoLearn, before I got licensed because I took his review course when I prepped for the Licensed Land Surveyor test, and then I would see him at conferences a couple times per year. Joe is an excellent presenter. Joe knew that I was doing some presentations to professional organizations and he knew that my company was using GIS and other new technologies in Land Surveying – so he asked me to present courses on GIS for GeoLearn.  I prepared power point slides just like I would for a live presentation. I flew to GeoLearn’s studio in Kansas City to record them. It’s actually much easier to present this way, because you only have to present 10-15 minutes at a time to create the segments. Being in the studio was a very cool experience!

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Work aside, I understand you’re a triathlete and compete in many similar events.  What’s next on your calendar? 

Last year, I qualified for XTerra World Championship race in Maui. This is an off-road triathlon consisting of an ocean swim, mountain bike, and trail run. Unfortunately, I was injured a couple weeks before the race and didn’t go. This year, I am not signed up for any races, which is an interesting experiment, because I’m still training, but without the pressure of an upcoming race. So I know I’m doing it because I really love it. I usually wake up at 4:30am and train early in the morning. I’m done by 8am in time to get my kids off to school and get to work. I am married to a NY City Firefighter and we have three amazing children, who are very active. Right now, I’m ok with putting my racing career on hold to attend their lacrosse games, concerts, and cheer competitions.

Contact:

Christine Gayron, President
Gayron de Bruin Land Surveying and Engineering, PC
cgayron@gayrondebruin.com

10+ Questions: Eileen Allen

Eileen Allen is a familiar and respected face across the New York State GIS landscape.  First a foremost an instructor at SUNY Plattsburgh, she has instructed and mentored hundreds of students who are now part of the statewide geospatial fabric.  And in her spare time she has participated and contributed to numerous statewide GIS advisory committees over the past 20 years.  Always upbeat and a pleasure to work with, she is most certainly a first ballot lock for the GIS wing at the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown.  

eSpatiallyNewYork:  How long have you been at SUNY Plattsburgh?

Allen:  I was an undergraduate student at Plattsburgh State from 1973-1977.  In August 1984, I was hired to help finish a remote sensing research grant mapping historical beaver locations in the Adirondacks.  I’ve been here ever since.

eSpatiallyNewYork:  Where are you originally from and tell us about your journey that led to Plattsburgh.

Allen:  Both my husband and I grew up in Plattsburgh.  Fortunately there were state and federal programs to help me get a college education.  After college at SUNY Plattsburgh, I went to McGill and worked on a Master’s in physical geography.  Everything seemed to go wrong with my advisor and the research.  It was hard but necessary to leave there.   Fortunately, I could use my McGill credits and finish a Master’s program in Natural Resources at SUNY Plattsburgh while I worked on research projects.  I thought about getting my PhD but I just didn’t end up going in that direction.   Besides, I liked the research projects I was working on too much!

eSpatiallyNewYork:  You’ve been associated with the GIS program at Plattsburgh since its origin.  How did it get started?  Who was involved?

Allen:  My involvement with teaching GIS developed out of research projects and the need to train student workers. Dr. Richard Lamb was instrumental in developing the GIS courses and a minor in addition to his planning courses and practice.  He started the GIS course in the late-1990s and by the early-2000s we would take turns teaching the Introduction to GIS class.  I took over all the GIS classes when he retired and the Remote Sensing courses when Dr. Donald Bogucki retired.

But there is more, because so many chance occurrences determine our path.  Also, it has been noted that many more women are in GIS than in other natural sciences.  When taking college classes, I was often one of a very few or the only female.  Many people think that because GIS is so collaborative, women often gravitate towards it.  This is certainly true for me.

As an undergraduate, I was interested in many things but was unsure what I would major in and tried out several paths.  I needed a Social Science course and Physical Geography was on the list, so I took it.  Drs. Donald Bogucki (Geography) and Gerhard Gruendling (Biology) were working on a pilot project mapping wetlands and demonstrated this in their classes.  The grant was to investigate the use of remote sensing to estimate the impact of regulating the Richelieu River (the outflow of Lake Champlain, NY-VT) because of flooding concerns in Quebec.  Dr. Bogucki showed some color infrared imagery of wetlands in Physical Geography class and I was totally flabbergasted!  I absolutely had to be involved with the project!  It took several days for me to get the courage up to ask if I could be part of the research.  It so happened that they needed someone to use a transit to establish ground control.  I had been working with my father, a land surveyor, for many years and was enlisted by Dr. Bogucki to help set out targets and map them.

In the early 1970’s, it was very unusual for an ecologist and a geomorphologist to work together.  That was part of the attraction, though, where many of my interests could be combined. By chance, at about the same time, the Environmental Science Program was started at SUNY Plattsburgh and I had found my academic home.  I continued to be part of the project mapping Lake Champlain wetlands using custom flown 70-mm imagery until my graduation.
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10 Questions: Bob Wills

Bob Wills, Senior GIS Project Coordinator, Dutchess County Department of Planning and Development has been a mainstay with the Dutchess County GIS program for over twenty years and involved in many Lower Hudson River Valley geospatial projects.  Widely recognized across the state, Dutchess County GIS exemplifies a federated style of GIS development across the enterprise by supporting and building GIS capacity in different program areas. While the geospatial concepts are very similar, though very different, Bob came into the GIS space with an architectural background. He is a Registered Architect in the State of New York and board Certified by the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB). I recently caught up with him to talk about the Dutchess County GIS program, it”s history, and current efforts.

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